- TEN QUESTIONS
- FOR CELEBRATE RECOVERY
PRINCIPALITIES OR GRACE?
DOES CR STAND FOR CELEBRATE
OR COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANITY?
Rick Warren: "Personal stories are also easier to relate
to than principles, and people love to hear them." Then
why are there 8 "principles" to recovery at the heart
of his Celebrate Recovery program instead of 8 "personal
stories"? And why is John Maxwell whose central core doctrine
is "principles", Warren's key partner in his Global
Peace Plan? Maxwell's principles are the first E for how to equip
leaders in Warren's P.E.A.C.E. Plan. So then why does Warren
have E for the principles to equip leaders yet he publishes "7
Key Principles for Every Project" instead of personal stories
in his acronym and 7 key personal stories for every project?
Someone may protest and say but isn't "Principle" found
in Scripture. Yes, but in only two opposite contexts. In Hebrews
6:1-2, the word is used to describe beginning as the oracles
of God, and in Colossians 2:6-10 to describe the principles of
this world that we supposed to die to Christ. Personal stories
are at the heart of AA and CR, but how is it even possible to
conduct these meetings without gossiping and talebearing, forbidden
in Scripture? Speaking of "persons", did Christ teach
Principles or the Person of Christ? He is the "way the truth
and the life". So if Warren's "story" that people
love to hear, that his Purpose Driven Life book is "bestselling
nonfiction hardback book in history" is forensically untrue
and is a false claim: Proof of book sales ranking chart:
and false advertising is a crime according to the FTC Statute
# 15 U.S. Code § 54,
then why should why should anyone trust him with his Celebrate
Recovery and believe it is also not fake news, or have hope in
his Daily Hope radio program? This proves that not only does
Warren contract himself but proves that both his stories and
man-made principles are fatally flawed.
II. In reading the CR 12 Steps, where is the Blood of
Jesus? (Can't find it in a Google Search or search on CR's website).
Scripture teaches that Christ's blood is how we draw near to
Christ, so how do you draw near to Christ without taking this
step as the most important step? Scripture teaches that we are
purchased by Christ's blood, but there is no Scripture where
we have to purchase anything to be saved or sanctified, both
are gifts. A person who lives to be 80 statistically walks about
two hundred million steps. So if they become a Christian at 40,
they walk approximately a hundred million steps as a Christian
if they live to be 80. Since "the steps of the righteous
man are ordered by the Lord", why does CR have only 12 steps,
and even those are works. How is the required "working the
steps" not works?
III. The Beatitudes present the pathway to blessings,
but why is their no warning or discussion about the steps that
will cursed which Christ (Matthew 7:21-23)
and the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:8) put the greatest emphasis
on? Couldn't Paul have not been so brutal and offer the Judaizers
a type of 12 Step Recovery Program for their hurts, habits, and
hangups, so they could celebrate? Where is the warning of the
doctrines of demons and seducing spirits in CR 12 Steps, or in
their website search engine that the Apostle John commanded to
not give heed to? And where is the Wrath of God (e.g., God's
Global Warming [a third of the grass and forests set on fire
by God's Judgment] vs. Man-made Global Warming [another "story"
myth, fake news, science falsely so-called] document that Warren
signed) in the 12 Steps or anywhere on CR website? Another myth
that Warren promotes is Hugh Ross who promotes the false teaching
that Noah's Flood was local NOT Global. Since part of the Gospel
is about the Judgment that we are averting, shouldn't that be
one of the first things presented at a CR meeting?
IV. If Roman Catholic doctrine anathematizes all Protestants,
why are they embracing a spiritual program created and promoted
and sold by two Protestant pastors? If Protestants like Warren
and Baker are anathematized by Roman Catholic Doctrine, how could
they ever recover or celebrate unless (in their minds) unless
Rick Warren and Founder, John Baker convert to RC? This would
be like going to the witch of Endor to get counsel and comfort.
And what do they recover and celebrate if they take CR that is
not provided in the RC Sacraments?
V. If the Reformation leaders taught that the Pope and
RC are antichrist, why is Rick Warren silent about this and does
not tell them that Celebrate Recovery can't work on antichrists?
If CR is so successful, why are Catholics who take CR still Catholics
after they take the program? Wouldn't true repentance deliver
them? And where has CR marked false teachers and named names
(i.e., Bill Wilson and Carl Jung), identify false teachers and
religions (the foundation of AA and hence the foundation of CR),
as Scripture commands? Does CR tell you this in its training?
You can judge a tree by its roots (as well as by its fruit).
The roots of CR are AA, and the roots of AA false religions and
teachers. And Jesus said a thorn-bush can't produce figs. AA
is a thorn-bush, so aren't you eating the fruit of a poisonous
VI. If the Apostle Paul says being a drunkard (alcoholic)
"such WERE some of you", before becoming born again
Christians, but now they are no longer drunkards, then why does
AA (the foundation of CR) teach that you are an alcoholic for
life even if you are sober and never take another drink for 30
years or the rest of your life? So there is no cleansing you
of ALL unrighteousness (habits, hurts, and hangups) in CR? CR's
foundation is AA, Christ is the alleged superstructure vs. true
Christianity where Christ is the foundation and there is no other
VII. If you never recover in your lifetime, what is there
VIII. Where in Scripture is repentance accomplished via
a formalized group program like CR vs. individually? Many repented
simultaneously at the same time in many cases, but not because
of interactive, structured programs, confidentiality, or cost.
Where is the confidentiality in a public profession of faith,
and where is the confidentiality in Matthew 18, if the person
does not repent so we are required to tell the whole church?
IX. Where are there 12 steps in Scripture and what is
deficient or missing in 2 Timothy 3:16 that says Scripture is
sufficient for all good works and the perfecting of saints and
being thoroughly equipped for every good work, for two thousand
years. And how is Pastor Hess Hester, the leader of CR for pastors
unable to obey the Scripture "Be kind and tender to one
another. Forgive each other, just as God forgave you because
of what Christ has done" Eph. 4:32, without and before CR
or 12 Steps according to his testimony? If you are thoroughly
equipped for every good work with Scripture alone, how is CR
even needed? And how does it not usurp this very Scripture?
X. Though one can attend a CR meeting without cost, the
materials kit at the CR meetings for the package, even discounted,
typically cost $89.99: source:
(and more money for leadership training), though many may get
it for less or free if their church pays for it. There are specific
examples of paying money for counseling or spiritual equipping
in the Bible, but both examples were condemned: Saul consulting
the Witch of Endor in the Old Testament, and Simony in the New
Testament. So if the Lord told Isaiah (Isa. 55:1) and Jesus Christ
is right when he said in Revelation:
"The Spirit and the bride say, "Come " And let
the one who hears say, "Come " And let the one who
is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life
without cost." Revelation 22:17
when you could obtain everything you need in Christ freely, how
are all of those Christians who believe and obey Christ's own
words, lacking anything by never participating or paying any
money in a Celebrate Recovery meeting or program? And even if
you pay money, the statistics on AA recovery vs. returning to
drinking are catastrophic: 95% return to drinking. Would you
invest in a stock that has a 95% failure rate of return?
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